May 18, 2012

Not ovulating on Clomid

Hello Dr.

I’ve been on two cycles of clomid (50mg/100mg) but the follicles never matured =(. I haven’t been diagnosed with PCOS and have ovulated on my own in the past. My RE did blood work on cd10, 12, 14 and my estrogen levels were 55, 57, 65 and then 54. What could be the reasons the follicles weren’t maturing and what causes the estrogen level to remain low. I understand estrogen level has to be above 200+.

Now I have been prescribed metformin (1st wk 500mg; 2nd wk 1000; 3rd-4th wk 1500mg). Do you think Metformin helps even though I don’t have diabetes and I’m not insulin resistant?

Thanks for your help.

Jen
Orlando, FL

Monitoring of Clomid cycles is helpful because even if you don’t get pregnant, it’s helpful to know if you’re at least ovulating. To monitor with blood tests rather than ultrasounds offers little advantage, unless of course, the capability of doing ultrasound is not available. I’m not sure if in this case, there were ultrasound exams done in addition to the estradiol tests, but it doesn’t matter. The obvious conclusion is that even with the Clomid, the follicles are not developing. Clomid works by raising your own natural release of FSH (Follicle-Stimulating Hormone) from your pituitary gland (a small organ that hangs from your brain). For some people, this small boost in FSH is enough to get the follicles growing. For others, it’s not enough. This is a common problem. So what is there to do?

Some possible approaches to help achieve ovluation when you get to this point are:

  • INCREASING THE CLOMID DOSE: I personally don’t favor this approach. I don’t remember the last time I had someone who didn’t do anything on 100mg and then went on to ovulate and get pregnant with just a higher dose of Clomid.
  • ADDING OR COMPLETELY SWITCHING OVER TO INJECTABLE MEDICATIONS: This is a popular tactic and works well. The danger is that sometimes, it works too well and you end up with so many follicles that you get twins (or more). The other drawback is that it is more expensive than Clomid. However, I will repeat that it works very well.
  • LOOKING FOR OTHER CAUSES: If someone is not developing follicles on Clomid, it would make sense to look at other issues such as an underactive thyroid, elevated prolactin, elevated male hormones or worst of all, diminished ovarian reserve.
  • TREATMENT OF INSULIN RESISTANCE USING METFORMIN: If patients show clues suggestive of insulin resistance (unexplained weight gain, chronically feeling tired, strong carbs or sugar cravings, family history of diabetes, preferential distribution of fat around the waist, extreme post-meal sleepiness, or documented high insulin to glucose ratio on challenge testing), then metformin can not only help them ovulate, it can help them get healthier.
  • NORMALIZATION OF BMI: This goes along with the concept of getting healther. A good target of BMI is between 21-23. I’ve had patients who successfully lost weight and then started to respond to the Clomid, or in some extreme cases, started to ovulate on their own and get pregnant, even without Clomid. To figure your BMI, you can use this online calculator.

Jen, it is good that you have ovulated on your own before. However, if you don’t ovulate more consistently, you will fall into the situation where on months that you DO ovulate, you have a chance of getting pregnant. But, on the months that you fail to ovluate, all you end up doing is wasting one more month of your reproductive years. I’m curious what test results your doctor has found that rule out insuiln resistance. A lot of times, if you just test fasting levels rather than checking challenged levels using a glucose drink to stimulate insulin activity, you will easily miss a diagnosis of insulin resistance. As you can see, there are still many options you can take at this point. Have a good discussion with your doctor regarding which of these tactics to try next. And let us know as soon as you succeed. Good luck!

  • Natasja

    I ovulated last month and ended up having a chemical pregnancy. This month my dr. put me on 100mg of clomid and on day 9 during an US no follicles could be seen. Why did I have no visable follicles on day 9 after treatment, but without clomid I did have?

    Thanx for your help – I appreciate it!

  • Banks

    I have never ovulated in the past (from home tests), I am on my 2nd month of Clomid, I did not ovulate on 100mg, and i did not ovulate on 150mg of Clomid either, My test come back normal, Why am I not ovulating, or/ and getting pregnant, I am getting to think of desperate measures. Please inform, or and help please.

  • Banks

    I have been trying to get pregnant for almost 2 years straight, and have tried off and on in the past to get pregnant as well. my menstral cycle is normal.

  • Sue

    Hi everyone been trying to get pregant for 5 years went to RE june 2010 put on clomid 50mg for 4months went to 100mg for 4months did insemination in august 2011 another insemination in October. September did not ovulate stopped ovulating nov. Dec. Jan 2012. So all together stopped doing insemination because I didn’t ovulate wanted to do 2 more insemination but I can’t because I stopped ovulating oh ya I was on clomid with my 2 insemations and in nov.dec.Jan still did not ovulate I don’t know what is going on. My question is what should I do to ovulate I heard you can take a medication to ovulate but I don’t know which one will work for me. I heard that there is a shot called ovidrel that releases the egg while on clomid combined I never tried it but do you think I should try that? What are some medicines that help ovulate and how much is the medicine?I am thinking know since I have been trying to get pregant for 5years maybe I was not ovulating and not know it. So do I do insemination or try on my own with ovulation inducing medication maybe I could get pregant that way. Don’t have a lot of money iam not working want to take the cheapest route. Please respond if any one knows about ovulation medicines.

  • K_babler

    I am in the same situation as u but i went from 50mg to 150 mg still no ovulation. I do have irregular periods and havent had on one my own since Nov.2011