IUI's for patient with dyspareunia or vaginismus

Dear Dr , I have been through each and every section of your website and it
is really very informative for people like us who sometimes wish to know ,
why this treatment , what would it do? It has really encouraged me to ask my
RE politely :-) about various things and treatments she suggests.

My goal is not to make extra work for my colleagues , but there are certainly times in which part of being an RE is communicating with patients and not just being an egg and sperm engineer. I personally get a lot of satisfaction from teaching, not just teaching medical students, but also teaching my patients and my blog readers.

There is this one thing about which I’ll like an opinion from you. I’ll
try to be brief but explanatory about my history , please advise me , I
really need your advice.

My Problems - TTC for 3.5 years now, I am 29 now.
- Irregular periods(since the age of 21, was on provera to get my periods)
- Married at age 25(BCP for 6 months)
- Detected with PCOS, Insulin resistance and hypothyroidism(currently on
metformin 1500 mg, synthroid 50mg) after 6 months of marriage
- Vaginismus - to top all the above problems , I have this, I sometimes
want to run away from this truth but I just cannot , my brain just does not
let my husband in and I don’t know whether we have ever had a successful
intercourse. I had a surgery to remove the hymen which the doctors thought
might be causing pain. I have been able to get all vaginal ultrasounds and
IUIs but I still can’t let him in. I just can’t state my helplesness and
wish somebody could understand it.

Infertility problems are divided into problems of sperm, eggs and anatomy. You haven’t mentioned sperm yet, but the irregular menses suggest an egg problem and the fact that you can’t effectively have sex creates an anatomical problem. Over the course of my practice, I have encountered quite a few married couples who never have sex. There are obviously many emotional implications in addition to the fertility implications. Dyspareunia is the medical term for painful sexual intercourse. This is further divided into deep dyspareunia and superficial dyspareunia depending on if the pain is felt deep in the pelvis or on the skin and surface. Vaginismus is a case of superficial dyspareunia. Your case, while severe is not as severe as those women who can’t even get ultrasounds.

I have been working on my above problems, I started with an aggressive
approach this year when my RE said that inseminations will overcome the
vaginismus factor. I have had 3 IUIs , 2 IUIs with clomid cycles and one
with Injectables. In both the clomid cycles , I had good mature follicles
always on my right ovary on cycle day 18 . The first cycle , I had 3 that
measured 2.1, 1.8 and 1.7 but my lining was only 0.5 cms. Next cycle with
clomid on my right ovary I had only one mature follicle on day 17 of 1.9 cm
and my lining was agin a 0.6. My RE said that clomid is causing the thin
lining and moved me to Injectables with the low dose of 75 IU. I had 5 good
follicles this time on cd12 and they were 1.9, 1.8, 1.8, 1.6, 1.5 and my
lining was 1.07 cms.I had the HCG shot at 12:00 in the night and went for
IUI at 9:30 on cd14.My doctor said the chances are very high and I was
started on progesterone on cd14 itself and on CD21 the progesterone levels
came as 38.3 but I wasn’t pregnant.

My questions
1) Is one IUI enough for me, knowing my situation that aur love making is
not successful , should we go for 2 IUIs in one cycle and if 2 what should
be the timings of them?

This type of detailed variation is an individual choice between the RE and the patient. There is no clear data showing that two IUI’s are that much better than just one. The timing of IUI’s is also a personal judgment call. Many RE’s don’t time it down to the hour, but just schedule it sometime either 1, 2 and/or 3 days after the hCG shot. I like IN GENERAL, to do the IUI about 40 hours after the hCG shot, but it varies especially in patients who have had previous IUI’s in which case you can go back and see what they have done in the past, so as to fine tune the plan for future cycles.

2) can inseminations truly overcome the vaginsimus factor, if so , why do
doctors say to make love that night and the following night ?

IUI’s get the sperm deep inside the uterus. For patients with vaginismus, the sperm often doesn’t even get into the vagina. So, yes, IUI’s are mechanically very effective for overcoming the vaginismus factor. I’m not sure what you mean in your second question. We don’t typically tell that to our IUI patients.

3) Also, I think that I took the HCG shot quite late at night(As in one of
your case studies you said it should be 35 hrs prior to iUI). Please tell me
when should the HCG shot be taken and when should the IUIs be done to have
most chances?

Again, refer to my answer to question #1. It is not set in stone. By the way, please point out where exactly did I said 35 hours for IUI. It might be a mistake. Or are you sure I wasn’t referring to IVF? In that case, it is indeed about 35 hours between hCG and egg retrieval.

3)Also, my RE didn’t do a HSG for me and she wants to do it this cycle, can
I do an HSG and an IUI in the same cycle? Also, as they say HSG improves
fertility , is that true , would that really help?

Yes, it’s possible and often done to have an HSG and an IUI in the same cycle. The drawback is if the HSG shows both tubes to be blocked, then you’ve wasted the ovarian stimulation. In some patients, an HSG does improve pregnancy, both through natural intercourse and through IUI. The thought is that the dye flushes debris and "junk" out of the tubes making them cleaner than ever.

4)If due to vaginismus my chances are very low with IUI,should I just move
to IVF ?

If your only problem is vaginismus, then IUI should overcome it. Bear in mind you might have other problems, such as egg quality issues, if you truly do have PCOS, as you suggested. In general, if the tubes are open, my patients undergo 1-3 cycles of IUI before going on to IVF, but there are so many factors to consider that you had best leave the recommendation up to your own RE.

Please reply back to me, My doctor is not willing to do anymore IUIs and
says this is unexplained fertility , I am not sure whether my concern about
the timings of IUI and vaginismus are correct or not. IVF is a very
expensive thing for us and mentally very disturbing too. We will go that way
for sure , if that is the only way but since this is my last shot at IUI , I
want it to be as precise as possible. I hope you understand and take time to
reply to this long email. I would be thankful to you for life. I live on
the other side of the world , else after reading your website , I would have
rushed to you for treatment. I hope my email is not vague and I can get
answers from you.

Thanks for your time!Please reply to my email, I haven’t seen a vaginismus
case on your blog and since you say that you would answer something that is
of interest to others. I thought that its only me who has this vagisnismus ,
rather I didn’t know the name too, till I found through the internet that
lots of women suffer from it. Your advice would be helpful to all of them
too.

Thanks
Pia

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