October 20, 2014

Couple choose not to do IVF themselves and publicly opposes IVF clinic for others as well

Today, I received a bulletin from ASRM alerting members to a case in Illinois. My understanding is that there are politicians fighting to prevent a doctor from opening up an IVF practice.

Here’s a letter from the opposing view.

My view is this. The couple is free to make their own choice regarding doing IVF or not. They are also free to express their opinion against IVF loud and clear.

However, I find it hard to stomach an outside third party (the city politicians) actually taking physical action to come between a doctor and his/her patients. If the doctor wishes to help the patients have babies via IVF and if the patients wish to have the doctor help them have a baby with IVF, what place do outsiders, who are not friends of the patients and not friends of the doctor, have in blocking them?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jasmyne-Tiara-Hightower/100001417444273 Jasmyne Tiara Hightower

    As an aspiring Reproductive Endocrinologist, I respect your opinion on this topic. I too believe that outsiders should have no say in a couple wishing to conceive through IVF, especially if they are not capable of achieving this on their own. I wonder what most third parties are afraid of.

  • http://MindOnMed.com Danielle Jones

    Totally agree with your view and find it sad that others see this as an opportunity to push their beliefs on others. However, I do admire the couple for standing their ground on the personhood/when life begins argument. So many people go around saying life “begins at conception” but when they realize what that means for themselves or for others in the way of fertility medicine find some way around it and backstep on their so-called moral beliefs.

    However, despite having to give them props for standing their grounds, I do believe they should have no say in what others do. The fact that they called these babies “manufactured” is absolutely sickening. If they don’t want a baby via IVF, that’s fine – but others might and trying to petition to prevent someone from making a living by preventing the building of a clinic and trying to prevent others from having a family via the IVF route is asinine. 

  • Cesca

    Anyone who has never suffered infertility should not have a say… I don’t think they understand how much these Drs. make a difference for some people. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqfGqOx2iDQ - 

  • Concerned Patient

    Clearly there is a lack of understanding on this issue, on the side of the fertility doctors.  When someone is against abortion, it is a matter of life and death.  Many people now know that IVF clinics routinely use an abortion procedure, called selective reduction, during the IVF process.  Therefore it is not really a matter of family choice, it is a matter of homicide.

    To be clear:  I am married and we DO struggle with infertility.  However, getting pregnant at any cost (or doing anything at ANY cost) is clearly not the ethical answer.  I think it would be great if there was a one embryo limit on each IVF cycle.  I’m not just talking about natural IVF either, with traditional IVF the embryo could be created in the laboratory and there would be frozen egg storage for future cycles.  If there was a one embryo limit, then there would be no need for selective reduction and the destruction of living embryos.  Then clinics could remain in business without opposition form those who are pro-life.

    To call any opposition “asinine” truly shows a lack of understanding of the issue.  No one would claim it is asinine to oppose Charles Manson, or the movie theater massacre in Aurora, Colorado.  There is nothing unethical about standing against the unnecessary taking of life.

  • Concerned Patient

    To call any opposition “asinine” truly shows a lack of understanding of the issue.  No one would claim it is asinine to oppose Charles Manson, or the movie theater massacre in Aurora, Colorado.  There is nothing unethical about standing against the unnecessary taking of life.

  • Concerned Patient

    Edit:  I went back and read the letter.  It’s wonderful, everyone should read that letter.  I only differ by saying I am not against the creation of embryos; I am against the destruction of embryos.  That is why I believe natural IVF and other means of single embryo production should become the norm.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Terence-Ivfmd-Lee/1523282856 Terence Ivfmd Lee

    I think your view of opposing selective reduction and yet allowing infertile couples the right to have babies with medical help (but without reduction) is a valid one and a much better one than the extreme stance of banning doctors 100%. Thank you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Terence-Ivfmd-Lee/1523282856 Terence Ivfmd Lee

    I will side with you 100% against the unnecessary taking of life. Out of curiosity, I’d be interested in knowing your view on the current non-defensive undeclared wars and the actual killing of innocent six-year-old children in that context.

  • Concerned Patient

    That sounds absolutely horrible Dr. Lee.  I would say I am definitely opposed to the killing of six-year old children as well as embryos. 

    However, if you are 100% against the unnecessary taking of life, it would be wonderful for you to lead the way among Reproductive Endocrinologists and pledge to discontinue the practice of selective reduction altogether. I believe this kind of small commitment would take the controversy out of fertility treatments.

  • Manojsinhzala

    How can we increase sperm count